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    Default Rossion Q1 - For Sale

    Make: Rossion (Derivative of the Noble M400/M12, with hundreds of Engineering changes and improvements)
    Titled: in 2014 and updated to 2014 specs
    Model: Q1
    Mileage: 4,9xx
    Vin: RUS0075
    Former Owner: Co-Founder of Rossion – His personal car.
    Color: Green (one of 2 in existence)

    ebay listing with pictures:

    Special vehicle with a Unique Story
    Description: Based on the world-renowned Supercar the Noble M400, this Rossion Q1 was built to compete with the big guys. Using a Ford 3.0L block as a base, AER built a twin turbo V6 engine that produces 450hp. There are not many cars that can compete with this power to weight ratio. The 0-60 and quarter mile times put this car in the same category as (has been dubbed) “stupid fast” Corvette ZR1 and the Ferrari Enzo.

    Interior: The combination leather/alcantara seats area nice touch of luxury for such a performance-focused machine. The instrument gauges are custom built for the car, which makes keeping track of your essential information clear and convenient. There is an ugraded 6.5 inch display for all of your media needs. Overall this is a beautiful interior and can be measured with other high-end performance coupes.

    Exterior: This is one of the most unique looking sports cars on the market today. This supercar has a simply gorgeous design, with beautiful, sharp lines that invoke some of the great competitors, while being distinct. A vehicle like this brings remarkable style and abundant power to the table at the fraction of the cost of other supercars.

    Drivetrain: AER manufacturing was able to put together a special engine package for the Q1. The 3.0L Ford block has been built to handle 450hp with a twin Garrett supercharger setup. All of this power is funneled through a 6-speed Getrag gearbox. These two are a perfect match. The linear power band is distributed smoothly and gearshifts are firm and direct. The Q1 weighs in at slightly less than 2600lbs, that’s 800lbs less than the C6 Corvette ZR1. With such an impressive power to weight ratio, it’s no wonder that this rocket ship puts down supercar numbers.

    Any videos on YouTube, or articles about the Rossion Q1, or its predecessor the Noble M400, Noble M12, will convey and capture its performance. Many have described it as a Lotus on Steroids. (Having owned a few Lotuses – Elise, Exige, Evora, I would certainly agree.)

    History/Story:
    This particular car was the personal car of the Rossion Co-founder, Ian Grunes. As such, it was taken care of quite well, and always brought up to the state of the art through the latter part of 2014. All work was done by the Rossion factory.
    Since purchase:
    All fluids and general servicing has been performed by a highly regarding exotic car specialist. The car opens up easily, and it’s a Ford drivetrain.

    Some of what was added is included here (below). Ian was kind enough to sign the passenger door sill as well.
    • It is Chassis 75, and there are two of these cars with this color scheme in existence.
    • Rossion had so much confidence in this particular vehicle, they featured it (for about 15 minutes) in a well-known auto show on CNBC, The Car Chasers. It is Season 3 Episode 13. One can watch it VOD via their cable/satellite box. (I also have a link and can provide it to you.) The green car in the show is exact car examined, drooled over, driven, etc.

    The car was built in 2009, and titled in 2014. It has a clean and clear 2014 Florida title. It is registered in Florida, where it had been, and where I have a residence. It is currently in the suburbs of NY, parked in my garage, and driven far too little, about 1,000 miles since purchased.

    Why am I selling? Tough question: I am joining a startup company, in which I am also investing, and where cash flow will be tight for 2 years or so. It makes it tough to justify keeping this car. It’s a 3rd car, driven very little. EVERYTHING IS RIGHT WITH THIS VEHICLE. TRULY, YOU SIMPLY NEED TO GET IN AND DRIVE. (CAREFULLY.)

    Any Issues: (i) I do find the windshield washer container leaks. That can be purchased anywhere for a few dollars. The car is not driven in the rain, and the windshield is always kept clean. So I never needed to put fluid in it. And never really thought about it until writing this description.

    (ii) The car as you can see from the pictures has a low clearance. Invariably front splitter rub against driveways and gas stations has and will occur. If I kept it, perhaps in a few years I would simply repaint it. Or not. One cannot see the front lip rub without crawling underneath. As it’s a street car as much as it can be only a track car, this will happen. Anybody who’s owned an Elise or Exige will know this happens.


    Factory Additions/Updates/Upgrades – Important: All OEM and all done at the Rossion Factory

    Quotes from the co-founder of Rossion, and the previous owner:
    “The car has been pampered and well maintained. It’s a very special color in that there are only two cars that color in existence.”

    “From the time it landed in the USA it never left our (Rossion) facilities except for the Car Chasers TV show. As it was only titled in 2014 it has the latest SA built chassis number - 75. All the years of experience and knowledge that I and my staff gained with these cars were put into this green car.
    My personal car got plenty of my attention ☺

    • Clear coated carbon fenders (2014)
    • New style Interior door panels (2012)
    • Manual adjustable boost controller (2014)
    • Updated tune (2014)
    • Updated Centerforce clutch (2012)
    • Updated gear shift mechanism (2014 change)
    • Upgraded door seals
    • Tinted windows
    • Upgraded stereo with Apple Car Play/Nav/Bluetooth
    • First Titled in 2014

    Most importantly the car’s insulation is substantially upgraded. The interior cockpit is quieter than the older Rossion cars by quite a bit and much cooler. The rear firewall was insulated with a double sheet of heat and sound material used in racing.

    The car comes with an extra set of OEM Rossion Wheels in Black, to nicely complement the Gun-Metal Gray Wheels it came with. The additional wheels are wrapped in Toyo R888 Proxies with about 400 miles on them. The performance street tires on the gray wheels have a few thousand miles on them. Plenty of life, and provide for a surprisingly comfortable ride on the street.

    Key Facts:

    -Limited production – about 200 in existence, with the headquarters in the US (Florida)

    -Supercar performance (one of the best performing cars in the world. 0-60 in about 3.1 seconds, with many other eye popping stats.)

    -Excellent condition – 4,9xx miles, still being driven on short errands and such. It could turn 5,000 miles.

    -Signed by Rossion Creator Ian Grunes

    Asking $75,000

    Feel free to PM me. Promise a swift reply, unless traveling. Or call mobile: 917-664-5651
    Thanks. Matt

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    Where did you get the 200 produced number? I've never seen one with a serial three digits?
    Or are you including there Nobles as well?

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    The "200" is what I was told from somebody who used to be at Rossion.
    The VIN existed before I registered it. I am not sure of its derivation.
    I simply re-registered it with the same VIN.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fcat360 View Post
    Where did you get the 200 produced number? I've never seen one with a serial three digits?
    Or are you including there Nobles as well?

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    There were 220 Noble M12's and M400's built for US import by Hi-Tech in South Africa between 2003 and 2007. Your car, Q1 #75, may very well be the very last Q1 that was shipped from Hi-Tech to the US before they stopped doing business with Rossion. Hi-Tech had a minimum volume/month contract with Rossion, just as it did with 1g Racing (the Rosen's) for the M12's and M400's. When it became apparent that Rossion's monthly sales volume could not support the required minimum contracted volume, Hi-Tech discontinued building the Rossion's and asked Rossion to find another manufacturing source for their car. It short, while we have no way of knowing what the final Rossion VIN number was, your car is the highest Q1 VIN # we on this forum have ever seen and is likely the last one from Hi-Tech. The VIN #'s have always been assembled by Hi-Tech in consecutive order and that is how we can actually determine when Noble's and Rossion's were assembled by Hi-Tech, regardless of when they were finally titled here in the US. The delay in titling was often attributed to the time it took for 1g or Rossion to find a buyer for the car and then for the buyer to arrange for the drivetrain to be installed. In your case, it sounds like Ian was probably driving the car using a dealer license plate and didn't have to register the car while he had it. Once he decided to sell it, it would then need to be registered by the buyer. Hope that helps to clear up some of the confusion.

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    You're probably right. I only know what Ian and Rossion told me.
    This was his personal car. I do wish it made sense to keep it. It's a special car for sure.
    Thanks for your additional information. As a long time Lotus owner, Nobles and Rossions are less my expertise, except how they drive!

    Quote Originally Posted by caccobra View Post
    There were 220 Noble M12's and M400's built for US import by Hi-Tech in South Africa between 2003 and 2007. Your car, Q1 #75, may very well be the very last Q1 that was shipped from Hi-Tech to the US before they stopped doing business with Rossion. Hi-Tech had a minimum volume/month contract with Rossion, just as it did with 1g Racing (the Rosen's) for the M12's and M400's. When it became apparent that Rossion's monthly sales volume could not support the required minimum contracted volume, Hi-Tech discontinued building the Rossion's and asked Rossion to find another manufacturing source for their car. It short, while we have no way of knowing what the final Rossion VIN number was, your car is the highest Q1 VIN # we on this forum have ever seen and is likely the last one from Hi-Tech. The VIN #'s have always been assembled by Hi-Tech in consecutive order and that is how we can actually determine when Noble's and Rossion's were assembled by Hi-Tech, regardless of when they were finally titled here in the US. The delay in titling was often attributed to the time it took for 1g or Rossion to find a buyer for the car and then for the buyer to arrange for the drivetrain to be installed. In your case, it sounds like Ian was probably driving the car using a dealer license plate and didn't have to register the car while he had it. Once he decided to sell it, it would then need to be registered by the buyer. Hope that helps to clear up some of the confusion.

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    There seems to have been a few cars trickle out of the factory in the past year which were received "newer" registrations than was reflected in their actual MFG date. Thanks cacobra for the details. Don't the cars they have made since December 2014 have an actual VIN# instead of the Hitech-Ser#.

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    No, They have a chassis number just like they always have "NUS00XXX" The S.A. cars have a dataplate that says something along the lines of "Built by Hi-Tech Automotive Pty. S.A." The Us cars will be slightly different with the plate reading something along the lines of "Built by Rossion U.S.A."

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    The car is sold. Going to a great home.

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